derf Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 weegee does not play it's own game you can go days without shooting down a single plane with those [expletives deleted] and to top if off, the usual "Oh, you're in Ops?, only half count" - MORE THAN HALF THE OPS DON'T EVEN HAVE AIRCRAFT TO SHOOT DOWN rant over 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rawhide Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 ...about the only time anybody likes CVs 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 This is especially 'fun' when you have these linear progress missions. Not so bad with something like the Dockyard missions. Now, obviously either WG does not play their game, does not care, or they are doing this on purpose. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbow Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 23 minutes ago, derf said: and to top if off, the usual "Oh, you're in Ops?, only half count" - MORE THAN HALF THE OPS DON'T EVEN HAVE AIRCRAFT TO SHOOT DOWN Yeah, it is a stupidly designed Dockyard Combat Mission. 8 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said: Now, obviously either WG does not play their game, does not care, or they are doing this on purpose. Based on what they've done in the past, I am more than inclined to say they did this on purpose. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermore135 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I’m planning on playing a few Coop battles over the course of the patch in Yorktown/Enterprise to easily farm those ribbons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderTheRadarAgain Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 2 weeks to complete the last stage. Should be easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, derf said: weegee does not play it's own game you can go days without shooting down a single plane with those [expletives deleted] and to top if off, the usual "Oh, you're in Ops?, only half count" - MORE THAN HALF THE OPS DON'T EVEN HAVE AIRCRAFT TO SHOOT DOWN rant over I'm currently at 50 out of 85 aircraft to be shot-down. 🙂 I sail CV's into Co-op and charge towards the red-team's CV. While steaming at full-speed to get within brawling range, I perform aerial attacks with my squadrons while my hull's secondary battery guns score hits on ships of opportunity. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Cthulhu Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, derf said: weegee does not play it's own game you can go days without shooting down a single plane with those [expletives deleted] and to top if off, the usual "Oh, you're in Ops?, only half count" - MORE THAN HALF THE OPS DON'T EVEN HAVE AIRCRAFT TO SHOOT DOWN rant over Oh no, "they" play the game. Thing is: 1) "They" don't choose to limit themselves to a game mode that's going to limit their access to airplanes to shoot down. 2) "They" aren't going to be shy about taking carriers into battle, or divisioning with players who take carriers, so that they can ensure their access to aircraft targets. 3) "They" aren't going to be shy about taking submarines into battle to pick up the ridiculously small number of ribbons per day that are necessary in that category. 4) "They" aren't going to be shy about taking ships, or combinations of ships in division, that some might regard as 'toxic'. In short, "They" don't tie their hands behind their backs with strategic or ideological rope that stands in the way of achieving their stated goals. The goal is the ship. Do you want the ship? Do what's necessary to win it efficiently. Edited September 18 by Ensign Cthulhu 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Mission accomplished. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashed68 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Other non plane missions you can do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Shooting down plane missions is best done in co-op while driving your own CV. The enemy strike aircraft don't dodge fighters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Ensign Cthulhu said: Oh no, "they" play the game. Thing is: 1) "They" don't choose to limit themselves to a game mode that's going to limit their access to airplanes to shoot down. 2) "They" aren't going to be shy about taking carriers into battle, or divisioning with players who take carriers, so that they can ensure their access to aircraft targets. 3) "They" aren't going to be shy about taking submarines into battle to pick up the ridiculously small number of ribbons per day that are necessary in that category. 4) "They" aren't going to be shy about taking ships, or combinations of ships in division, that some might regard as 'toxic'. In short, "They" don't tie their hands behind their backs with strategic or ideological rope that stands in the way of achieving their stated goals. The goal is the ship. Do you want the ship? Do what's necessary to win it efficiently. yer trippin' "I" don't wanna play CVs "I" don't wanna play subs "I" don't care about shills I am simply stating that this is an asinine mission considering fighters if you want to make this into something else do it alone 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Slattery Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 10 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: Shooting down plane missions is best done in co-op while driving your own CV. The enemy strike aircraft don't dodge fighters. Yep. I intend to knock the dust of my Graf Zeppelin so there will be a guaranteed carrier for my co-op buddies. I will also drive her into the nearest cap and let her secondaries go to work. 😎 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, Captain Slattery said: Yep. I intend to knock the dust of my Graf Zeppelin so there will be a guaranteed carrier for my co-op buddies. I will also drive her into the nearest cap and let her secondaries go to work. 😎 I do that with every CV I own. It's co-op, as long as your team is all human players, the enemy bots won't survive long enough to sink you. It's full speed ahead from the moment the timer starts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonRoads Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 You can try to div with someone who plays CVs (or hybrids in a pinch.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Cthulhu Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 17 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: The enemy strike aircraft don't dodge fighters. They will alter course to fly around a dropped cap, not always successfully, but yeah, their ability to mitigate CV-bound fighters or ship AA is pretty much zip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 OK - MY BAD I thought it was a "shot down by fighters" only mission < turns deep red > after looking at Wolfie's post i went back and looked at the missions again BUT i stand by the concept that limiting aircraft destruction to half in ops is stupid sorry for the uproar all 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 8 minutes ago, derf said: OK - MY BAD I thought it was a "shot down by fighters" only mission < turns deep red > after looking at Wolfie's post i went back and looked at the missions again BUT i stand by the concept that limiting aircraft destruction to half in ops is stupid sorry for the uproar all You're welcome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Cthulhu Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 17 minutes ago, derf said: BUT i stand by the concept that limiting aircraft destruction to half in ops is stupid It's better than the previous situation of not being able to do combat tasks in operations at all. That being said, with operations being so scripted and able to be farmed out by a clued-up division team that knows what it's doing or rampant unicum, I think some sort of scaling was inevitable both as an initial compromise and for the foreseeable future - especially now that superships are in the mix (screenshot with YT link below): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeMbd-Sa44k So... yeah. Whether or not I agree with them, I can understand why they did what they did, and why they probably won't budge any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 hours ago, derf said: Oh, you're in Ops?, I've been playing OPS almost exclusively this patch. There's not one day I don't get múltiple instances of Hermes, Cherry Blossom or Raptor Rescue. For that mission I use Yorktown... Easy +20 plane kills every Match on those OPS. You can also get some plane kills on any Match... Proc the fighter consumable from the CAs and drop an interceptor in range, they'll kill the fighter consumables. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Slattery Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 58 minutes ago, derf said: BUT i stand by the concept that limiting aircraft destruction to half in ops is stupid I don't disagree with you here. Having said that, I'll take the "glass half full" position on this. Better half than none at all. WG takes baby steps, that's for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor3006 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Amusingly enough, this was the first mission I finished today and it was because I was spam playing my Atlanta for the Main Battery Hits & Ribbons missions. The first few games in co-op, got a couple of spotter planes. Then I got into a match where the bot CV decided I needed to die. He kept attacking me, got 35 kills but after that game, no carriers for a while. Then I got one and AGAIN, the bot CV decided my Atlanta should die...... I got all the rest of the plane kills I needed... So in two matches (essentially) got the mission done.. Someone needs to tell the bot carrier AI that Atlantas are not to be trifled with............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashed68 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 *fires up golden lion with AA modules and captain skillz* We going clubbin in co-op boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Everyone 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralThunder Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) I did it this morning in 5 Co-op games. 2 didn't have a CV and in the other 3 there was and I finished. I went straight for the CV and ignored everything else so I got out back and in between the CV and everyone else so the planes were mine. It was the 1st tasks I completed. I don't think this is a case of WG not playing their own game. Plane kills for missions is not new nor especially hard. Now, if WG implements these new CV changes that are being tested that make it almost impossible for a CV to spot, and then continues to have spotting damage tasks for CV's, I will say that is them not playing their own game. Plane kills though? Nah. Edited September 18 by AdmiralThunder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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