ArIskandir Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) Seemingly unrelated, this video is about a streamer 'quiting' Escape from Tarkov (no rage, actually very nice exposition) and is sponsored by WoWS... oddly (or not) everything that's said also matches perfectly with WoWS engagement dynamics. It's an interesting topic and isn't too long. Edited July 12 by ArIskandir 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 The content creator needs an editor, I feel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogHammer Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 2 hours ago, ArIskandir said: Seemingly unrelated, this video is about a streamer 'quiting' Escape from Tarkov (no rage, actually very nice exposition) and is sponsored by WoWS... oddly (or not) everything that's said also matches perfectly with WoWS engagement dynamics. Interesting....Very interesting... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus_Aesopi Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 I think you're right about the engagement dynamics being the same as WoWs Very interesting.... as someone @HogHammer said... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 What... WG is sponsoring videos that tell you not to play other games or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted July 13 Author Share Posted July 13 55 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said: What... WG is sponsoring videos that tell you not to play other games or something? Long story short, WG is sponsoring a video that tells you games like WoWS conduct behavioral manipulation of its players to keep you hooked up to a never ending cycle of updates and it is OK to stop playing them if you no longer enjoy the experience 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 12 minutes ago, ArIskandir said: Long story short, WG is sponsoring a video that tells you games like WoWS conduct behavioral manipulation of its players to keep you hooked up to a never ending cycle of updates and it is OK to stop playing them if you no longer enjoy the experience Now I've heard everything. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, ArIskandir said: Long story short, WG is sponsoring a video that tells you games like WoWS conduct behavioral manipulation of its players to keep you hooked up to a never ending cycle of updates and it is OK to stop playing them if you no longer enjoy the experience WG knows their target audience are the type who will know this to be true and think they are smart enough to beat the house...while not being smart enough. 🤣 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WES_HoundDog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 The devs probably hate their jobs because WEGEE treats them like crap. So the developers insert cancer into the game to hurt the game. The players complain and the owners (when not on the beach) see this and start firing devs. So the devs put out these videos to get rid of the people that complain so the owners don't see the complaints. Makes sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewbassg Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 hours ago, WES_HoundDog said: to get rid of the people that complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SureBridge Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Ummm I think that this is veering well into tinfoil hat territory. Most Dev's that I have met (regardless of studio) like what they do, and while some (most?) can give you examples of things in their area of responsibility that they think would improve the game if changed all of them have to play according to the "studio songbook". Given the level at which things interact, this is generally a good thing, so the idea of a "developer inserts cancer to hurt the game" (AKA killing off the thing that pays their salary) seems pretty ridiculous on a number of levels. If successful they kill the game and are out of a job. If noticed they are fired and out of a job. Really if they hate it that much, why don't they just go and get another job? The market for proven developers with experience on A-list titles, while not as tight as it was before several studios did massive layoffs in the last year is still robust. This is completely ignoring the fact that the Dev's are NOT the folks who make advertising decisions: are they paying for these adverts themselves? How about an alternative explanation? WG tracks a bunch of folks who stream games, and has a metric that outlines effectiveness (lets say $ per 10,000 followers) and places ads with those streamers that meet their metrics. If it's not a stream on their game, would they even review the content? Their objective is to get this ad in front of folks who are engaged enough in ANOTHER game to watch youtube videos, suggesting that this is an effective way of acquiring new members. The video includes a "special code" for goodies, so that WG can track who joined as a result of a specific ad spend. While this may have been counterproductive, the ad folks may have decided that spending on "Escape from Tarkov" or even "Youtube content creator cluster 7b" is not effective spending, rather than watching all of the videos in that spend cluster and going "Ooooooh..." This campaign may even be "effective" if the spend is across ~12 or so videos, so according to "the spreadsheet" WG would continue to invest in this targeted outreach. I think that it's ironic (and amusing) that WoWS had an ad on this video (thanks @ArIskandir for the link) but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, SureBridge said: ..but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Everybody remembers that quote but... am I the only one who would pick up on the fact that this in effect means that there are times when the cigar isn't just a cigar...... and what that actually means then? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SureBridge Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Well then, clearly that cigar is a UFO! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDuckman Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 On 7/12/2024 at 1:50 PM, Wolfswetpaws said: The content creator needs an editor, I feel. <Lurch voice> You rang? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDuckman Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) On 7/14/2024 at 1:57 PM, Admiral_Karasu said: Everybody remembers that quote but... am I the only one who would pick up on the fact that this in effect means that there are times when the cigar isn't just a cigar...... and what that actually means then? There was a quote taken from a late '60s song. (Grey cells are working on who.) "A thing's a phallic symbol if it's longer than it's wide." Of course! Melanie - Psychotherapy. I love Melanie. Freud's mystic world of meaning needn't have us mystified It's really very simple what the psyche tries to hide: A thing is a phallic symbol if it's longer than it's wide As the id goes marching on... R.I.P. Mel Edited July 15 by iDuckman 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SureBridge Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Hey @iDuckman I thought that you swore off thread derails after we made this new forum 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, SureBridge said: Hey @iDuckman I thought that you swore off thread derails after we made this new forum 😛 Just changed feathers but it's the same old duck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDuckman Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) On 7/15/2024 at 10:38 PM, SureBridge said: Hey @iDuckman I thought that you swore off thread derails after we made this new forum 😛 NEVER! Now what was the topic again? Oh. Well, we can't know the context. It might have been aggressive, or it might have been retaliatory. Edited July 17 by iDuckman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 On 7/14/2024 at 3:20 PM, SureBridge said: Well then, clearly that cigar is a UFO! UFO TV Series, 1970–1971 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063962/ UFO (TV series) - (Intro & Outro) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoshiSone Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Me? Addicted? Never... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SureBridge Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 7/15/2024 at 9:58 PM, ArIskandir said: Just changed feathers but it's the same old duck feathers are still yellow... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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