USMC2145 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Just what we need is another hybrid ship with planes. Who ever at WG thought this was a good idea should be fired. Edited July 5 by USMC2145 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Better to push missiles already... For those like me that are Flamu-allergic and prefer the root source... https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/544 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Cthulhu Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 So out of touch with the players who have an irrational hatred of carriers, you mean. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC2145 Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said: So out of touch with the players who have an irrational hatred of carriers, you mean. Which is a large part of the playerbase. I would bet if you gave the option to play the game without CV and Subs, 80% plus of the playerbase would take the option. Edited July 5 by USMC2145 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 48 minutes ago, ArIskandir said: Better to push missiles already... For those like me who are Flamu-allergic and prefer the root source... https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus_Aesopi Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 50 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said: So out of touch with the players who have an irrational hatred of carriers, you mean. I love carriers... and submarines. I do hate what they've done with them in the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, ArIskandir said: Better to push missiles already... For those like me that are Flamu-allergic and prefer the root source... https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/544 I mean, yeah. Why not at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 The worst of all possible worlds. What could go wrong? Still, you have to admire (not really but I'm trying to say something nice about them) WG's positive stance and commitment to believe that they can somehow make things that don't really work in the game to work in the game whatever it takes. Too bad it's the players who have to live with the mess WG keeps making of the game. I suppose there are players who like things the way they are, though, but it's not my cup of tea for sure. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulf_Ace Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 when hybrid ships first showed up everyone thought that they would be OP and everybody would played them. But now I dont even see them in games and there are a lot of them so far. Even when they are allowed in CBs people dont play them. So WG is pushing something that people dont even play and when they play them they are pretty bad. I do look forward for Tennesse, always good to see a historical ship, even though that speed man... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said: when hybrid ships first showed up everyone thought that they would be OP and everybody would played them. But now I dont even see them in games and there are a lot of them so far. Even when they are allowed in CBs people dont play them. So WG is pushing something that people dont even play and when they play them they are pretty bad. I do look forward for Tennesse, always good to see a historical ship, even though that speed man... I think it's because unlike carrier, you actually have a ship that has to be somewhere to be effective, but you can't control it while doing plane things (and autopilot barely works in straight line anymore) and recalling without using your strike - your long cd special move - feels bad. They just feel bad all round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolGaming_Youtube Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 4 hours ago, USMC2145 said: Just what we need is another hybrid ship with planes. Who ever at WG thought this was a good idea should be fired. I saw the video, ROFL when he went on the rant about players who loves German cruisers, hes 100% on point and WG should really think what they write in these articles. It just show how disconnected WG is to their own game, but no news there. "Fans of German cruisers Rejoyce! ! !" Here go fly some planes ...... (said no Hinden player ..... ever...) Edited July 5 by OldSchoolGaming_Youtube 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolGaming_Youtube Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said: when hybrid ships first showed up everyone thought that they would be OP and everybody would played them. But now I dont even see them in games and there are a lot of them so far. Even when they are allowed in CBs people dont play them. So WG is pushing something that people dont even play and when they play them they are pretty bad. I do look forward for Tennesse, always good to see a historical ship, even though that speed man... They are pretty OP in capable hands since you combine powers of both BB and CV, so that is pretty obvious. Heres a Kearsarge game from last night Spoiler But fortunately for most of us the majority don't have capable hands in this game so like most OP ships they get "balanced by player base" and for most "silent majority" that plays them they just end up being pretty bad CVs since they park them behinds islands and never shoot their guns, or they steam full engine into enemy team and dies while focusing on flying planes because they dont understand the autopilot. Edited July 5 by OldSchoolGaming_Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashed68 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said: when hybrid ships first showed up everyone thought that they would be OP and everybody would played them. But now I dont even see them in games and there are a lot of them so far. CV players without auto damage control and auto sub attacks suck at life. So they stay with the easy button regular cv's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 6 hours ago, USMC2145 said: Just what we need is another hybrid ship with planes. Who ever at WG thought this was a good idea should be fired. Is this a video from Potato Quality? The guy who rage-quit when he missed a shot? I've no interest in clicking on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navalpride33 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) WG is out of touch of the players OR The Players' themselves are blind and out of touch with WG's plans for their game. I'm willing to go with the second part.. Here's why CVs have been in the game since the creation of WOWS.. That means, ALL OF US are here assembled to play WOWS because of CVs not, despite of it. Subs are so nurtured, Their torps cant sink a mini torp ship of the Omaha Operation. I've personally been on the forefront on WOWS dev since 2019. Their agenda back then were (just to refresh some of you). Hybrids More Planes Sea Mines So, instead of scaling back on the Power of certain ordnance at high tier, making some ships unplayable (I rather have a root canal then to play at high tier even, in PTS). WG has doubled down, ITS 2024! There's other issues as well. BBs have to much options which makes them useless as a team concept ship, (Why give a BB 20km torps at tier 9... Its stupid as hell). Some BBs offensive and defensive capabilities out ranges some DDs -2 tiers below them. Thus making that DD useless in the match. WG, if you listen to their streams (especially EU ones), haven't deviated at all with their DEV plans. Problem is... (Refer back to the statement after the OR in bold). This is not WGs fault... Its the ones who dont pay attention and only want GAME CODES. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Addendum. WG dev philosophy haven't changed since 2019. Torps will never be an offensive weapon Torps were nerf'd on all platforms.. Surprisingly, BB torps are immune to the nerf hammer. 0.8.0 Series was the worst series of nerfs. Liquidator, Flooding rework, the list goes on and on. IJN torp nerf. Planes will be king of the skies.. WG doesn't want to implement a fair AA mechanic for everyone. Tiers 1-6 are CV planes friendly.. They do not want to scare off CV players with a fair AA mechanic. CVs Can harass players for 3 min straight after the CV has sunk.. NO OTHER CLASS is allowed to get away with this. AP is the weapon of choice because of its lethality favoritism by those in charge. Which is why BBs are the top DMG dealers in the game CVs were close but the Torp nerf secured it in second place. As long as WG keeps with these principled philosophy in place. No changes are going to be made to balance out the game (mechanics wise and ordnance wise). Edited July 5 by Navalpride33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3LUE Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 31 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said: Is this a video from Potato Quality? The guy who rage-quit when he missed a shot? I've no interest in clicking on that. It is from Flamu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, 3LUE said: It is from Flamu Thanks. I've no interest in him, either. But it's good to know whose name is the correct one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 46 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said: WG is out of touch of the players OR The Players' themselves are blind and out of touch with WG's plans for their game. These are the exactly the same thing. 46 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said: CVs have been in the game since the creation of WOWS.. That means, ALL OF US are here assembled to play WOWS because of CVs not, despite of it. Willful blindness from WG staff if they believe that. 47 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said: This is not WGs fault... Its the ones who dont pay attention and only want GAME CODES. LOL Classic corporate blindness. EVERYTHING in game is ultimately WGs responsibility. Saying stuff like the development plan isn't WGs fault is absurd on its face. At this point, the old WG staff playbook of blaming the playerbase is stale and old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navalpride33 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: These are the exactly the same thing. Willful blindness from WG staff if they believe that. LOL Classic corporate blindness. EVERYTHING in game is ultimately WGs responsibility. Saying stuff like the development plan isn't WGs fault is absurd on its face. At this point, the old WG staff playbook of blaming the playerbase is stale and old. Well... Ultimately, WG is in charge... THAT's what I pointed out.. I also pointed out WG's precedent and transparent on their concept in development (for 5 years now) When does Corporate responsibility ends and PERSONAL responsibility begins? The way I see it... WG has stated what they're going to do and so far they have delivered. We the player base are the consumers not paying attention with our ears plugged... Asking for game codes instead of paying attention. In that regard, yup its the players fault. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Different example... I eat two quarter pounders a day every day because I like the product.. Even if the company is warning me it will kill me. I die... My family sue the company for wrongful death. Does this lawsuit have merit? OR is it frivolous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said: The way I see it... WG has stated what they're going to do and so far they have delivered. We the player base are the consumers not paying attention with our ears plugged... Asking for game codes instead of paying attention. In that regard, yup its the players fault. WG has also repeatedly said other things when they believed lying about the path would take some heat off. It is not the fault of the playerbase when WG deliberately obfuscates their communication. The confusion stems from WGs choices. Almost nothing is the players fault in game. 4 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said: Different example... I eat two quarter pounders a day every day because I like the product.. Even if the company is warning me it will kill me. I die... My family sue the company for wrongful death. Does this lawsuit have merit? OR is it frivolous? Further information, the company warning is in fine print on a different part of the menu card than the quarter pounder. Meanwhile, the company has print and TV advertisements saturating the market saying how healthy their burger is and how happy it will make you and your family. Does the lawsuit have merit now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navalpride33 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: WG has also repeatedly said other things when they believed lying about the path would take some heat off. It is not the fault of the playerbase when WG deliberately obfuscates their communication. The confusion stems from WGs choices. Almost nothing is the players fault in game. In the topic at hand of DEVELOPMENT and in context of their principles regarding the development of WOWS... They HAVE NOT deviated as I stated... They have been staying the course since 2019. For which You can refer to my original post to see what they were again. In other aspect... You know as well as I, WG has priors... However, in the context and topic of WOWS Development. They haven't wavered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WES_HoundDog Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 7 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said: So out of touch with the players who have an irrational hatred of carriers, you mean. You didn't watch the video i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus_Aesopi Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 hours ago, Admiral_Karasu said: The worst of all possible worlds. What could go wrong? Still, you have to admire (not really but I'm trying to say something nice about them) WG's positive stance and commitment to believe that they can somehow make things that don't really work in the game to work in the game whatever it takes. Too bad it's the players who have to live with the mess WG keeps making of the game. I suppose there are players who like things the way they are, though, but it's not my cup of tea for sure. It's funny because planes on non-carriers didn't really work in real life either... why are they trying to model it in game? Kinda' crazy... I still think all non carriers should have to STOP to retrieve their planes... Not to model reality, but to stop this nonsense in game. When WG finally gets to forcing missiles and helicopters into the game... well, I'll probably be playing DCS by then. Sad, since I like this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashed68 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Navalpride33 said: CVs have been in the game since the creation of WOWS.. That means, ALL OF US are here assembled to play WOWS because of CVs not, despite of it. You can't actually believe that, do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WES_HoundDog Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Because i don't know how to quote a chained conversation.. "WG is out of touch of the players OR The Players' themselves are blind and out of touch with WG's plans for their game." 53 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: These are the exactly the same thing. Your right. WG's plans for the game have lead us to 4 concurrent events to generate revenue instead of organic growth. Their plan is working out real well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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