Itwastuesday Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Fell for it. + Good firepower and ballistics + Rockets have big damage potential and the usual scouting potential + Decently ranged - trash hull and low hp - bad turret traverse - good ballistic make island hugging difficult So my take is that it's rather poor at open water gameplay with how big and clunky it is along with bad armor, yet it has very limited impact behind islands. And it cannot react to battlefield situations. Overall it feels like you're half doing pointless hindenburg things but weaker, half important carrier things but much weaker. One more ship where I wish it had armor instead of gimmik, because I would like 12 Soviet guns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle_Octavian Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Almost every time I see one, it's incredibly powerful, making huge hits on ships, until it suddenly evaporates due to it's insanely big citadel. Just evaporates. People need to look at the armor model for this thing, it's got the biggest citadel possible. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 30 minutes ago, Subtle_Octavian said: Almost every time I see one, it's incredibly powerful, making huge hits on ships, until it suddenly evaporates due to it's insanely big citadel. Just evaporates. People need to look at the armor model for this thing, it's got the biggest citadel possible. Yeah I knew about the citadel, but assumed I could make it work with limiting enemy fire with rocks. What I failed to realize is that the rocks are a deathtrap since maneuvering this ship feels much like manually driving Richthofen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle_Octavian Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 On 5/25/2024 at 8:28 AM, Itwastuesday said: Yeah I knew about the citadel, but assumed I could make it work with limiting enemy fire with rocks. What I failed to realize is that the rocks are a deathtrap since maneuvering this ship feels much like manually driving Richthofen. It really works in divisions, where it becomes a bit game breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 27 minutes ago, Subtle_Octavian said: It really works in divisions, where it becomes a bit game breaking. Perhaps, but I don't bother to consider division play. Having - 2 incompetent teammates is already such a massive advantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 Actually perhaps this is a ship for cv sniping division as it slams 20k into the side of a carrier quite easily. You could potentially end a carrier in a single concentrated attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolGaming_Youtube Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 The few games I seen a Kommisar in they have exploded quite fast with very little game impact. Seems like as soon as you even think about showing a poor angle towards something you explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said: The few games I seen a Kommisar in they have exploded quite fast with very little game impact. Seems like as soon as you even think about showing a poor angle towards something you explode. Much the same as good angle then what with the huge trivially overmatchable nose and gigantic box citadel 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeshuffle Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 "Our new ship, Oops All Citadel!" - Wargaming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said: The few games I seen a Kommisar in they have exploded quite fast with very little game impact. Seems like as soon as you even think about showing a poor angle towards something you explode. Have you tried taking it into Training Room? Perhaps it explodes spontaneously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type_93 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Komissar had a very high skill ceiling to play her effectively. She has kinda the same playstyle as a Venezia or Nevsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrubby_McScrub Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Its stats on the server say otherwise. It's showing currently as very strong. Played against one this morning that had a great battle. But, he hung back, played smart, & made good use of his planes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 minutes ago, Scrubby_McScrub said: Its stats on the server say otherwise. It's showing currently as very strong. Played against one this morning that had a great battle. But, he hung back, played smart, & made good use of his planes. Is there a difference between hanging back and playing smart and back lining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 20 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said: Is there a difference between hanging back and playing smart and back lining? Yup, results... and the ability to alternate stances when required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 4 minutes ago, ArIskandir said: Yup, results... and the ability to alternate stances when required. I see so it gets complicated... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WES_HoundDog Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Admiral_Karasu said: I see so it gets complicated... If you want brain dead gameplay your gonna have to pick up a sub or CV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolGaming_Youtube Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Admiral_Karasu said: Have you tried taking it into Training Room? Perhaps it explodes spontaneously? Dont have it, would never buy it. Where did all the Russian bias go? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 minutes ago, WES_HoundDog said: If you want brain dead gameplay your gonna have to pick up a sub or CV. Well.. it was more about back lining than flat lining though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WES_HoundDog Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 10 minutes ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said: Dont have it, would never buy it. Where did all the Russian bias go? Russians have always been known for having a citadel.... pre Petro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, WES_HoundDog said: If you want brain dead gameplay your gonna have to pick up a sub or CV. Gotta love when folks talk from based experience... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfYouSeeKhaos Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, Admiral_Karasu said: Is there a difference between hanging back and playing smart and back lining? With the right island cover you can "hang back' from the center of the map... don't need to be in the back. From that position you still have the same option to come out & contribute when an opportunity arises or camp there & be as useless as if you were in the corner hiding... I was just clarifying the alternate definition for "hang back". Edited May 28 by IfYouSeeKhaos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmo_2 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, WES_HoundDog said: If you want brain dead gameplay your gonna have to pick up a sub or CV. If you play without a brain in a sub, you are sure to get sunk quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 5 hours ago, desmo_2 said: If you play without a brain in a sub, you are sure to get sunk quickly. If you don't have a brain you have bigger problems than this game. Like you're the villain from Turkish Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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