Dockyard Missions UGH

[SolitudeFreak]

1 hour ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Is the Wisconsin worth the work?

Well, Wisconsin is an Iowa class, and since Iowas look cool, that means they're good.

Remember, in a video game looking cool = worth it.

[UnrepentantSinner]

2 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Is the Wisconsin worth the work?

Probably not, but i find less and less time for playing the game and this is most likely my last dockyard, so i will at least give it a try.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

I've been trying to do these things in co-op to prove a point, but every now and then I've gone into Randoms - sometimes when I've already finished that week's missions so it doesn't affect the result.

That being said, I'd rather go into Randoms/Ranked just enough to get five achievements than pick up some of the more onerous grinds for this coming week. 20 cits, 20 games top 5 and even 4500 ribbons are easy gimme territory in co-op, plus I might be able to pick up the DD spotting while I'm going for the achievements (e.g. devstrikes or first bloods). That will leave me with only one other thing to do. I wonder exactly how much CV spotting I can rack up if I make a deliberate point of tagging the enemy CV for my team-mates to shoot at from an early stage. Roughly 172,000 per night is needed. Possibly not too difficult if I use T8 or T10 carriers so the enemy CV has lots of health to farm.

[HamptonRoads]

55 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

I've been trying to do these things in co-op to prove a point, but every now and then I've gone into Randoms - sometimes when I've already finished that week's missions so it doesn't affect the result.

That being said, I'd rather go into Randoms/Ranked just enough to get five achievements than pick up some of the more onerous grinds for this coming week. 20 cits, 20 games top 5 and even 4500 ribbons are easy gimme territory in co-op, plus I might be able to pick up the DD spotting while I'm going for the achievements (e.g. devstrikes or first bloods). That will leave me with only one other thing to do. I wonder exactly how much CV spotting I can rack up if I make a deliberate point of tagging the enemy CV for my team-mates to shoot at from an early stage. Roughly 172,000 per night is needed. Possibly not too difficult if I use T8 or T10 carriers so the enemy CV has lots of health to farm.

Achievements might be easier in Ops.  

[UnderTheRadarAgain]

If you know how to boat - ops are a shoe in for achievements. Not pulling my own pud when I say it's easy to get one in nearly every game.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

2 hours ago, UnderTheRadarAgain said:

If you know how to boat - ops are a shoe in for achievements.

You mean 'shoo-in'. The trouble is not with ME knowing how to boat, it's with the rest of my team. My experience has been highly inconsistent, to the point where I'm never taking boosts to operations again.

[Wolfswetpaws]

2 hours ago, UnderTheRadarAgain said:

If you know how to boat - ops are a shoe in for achievements. Not pulling my own pud when I say it's easy to get one in nearly every game.

 

9 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

You mean 'shoo-in'. The trouble is not with ME knowing how to boat, it's with the rest of my team. My experience has been highly inconsistent, to the point where I'm never taking boosts to operations again.

Well.  I learned something.  For years I thought it was "shoe-in", but today I learned differently.
https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/pardon-the-expression/shoo-in-vs-shoe-in/
https://writingexplained.org/shoo-in-or-shoe-in
 

[Tricericon]

Wargaming has changed the last mission of Week 8 from "Earn One Achievement" to "Sink 5 Ships in 1 Game".

[Justin_Simpleton]

48 minutes ago, Tricericon said:

Wargaming has changed the last mission of Week 8 from "Earn One Achievement" to "Sink 5 Ships in 1 Game".

Are you saying WG wants a specific achievement?

Edited May 27 by Justin_Simpleton
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[BiteMeBigTime]

I have been grinding my way through this dockyard, same as I have a few times before. I started with the small 2 stage starter pack which is the minimum required to be able to reach the end. I am at 27 at the moment and getting really pissed off. Since level 6 not only is the required tasks hard in the first place but it very much seems like the game is rigged to make it harder. For instance in level 7 I think it was I needed to get 24 captured or assisted capture ribbons for a dd, I got to 20 ok, almost always getting at least 1 capture at a few times 2. But after 20 it just got much harder and took me 12 games to get the last 4. Now in this last level I am using my fully loaded Montana to try get the needed credits, BB hp and base xp and have found that I can't get anywhere near what I normally get with my favourite ship. Almost always in the badly beaten team and noticing things that just seem to be deliberately done to make it as hard as possible to get a decent score. Where with this ship that I play often I normally get around 100k hp and often well over that, I am finding it hard to get over 50k hp. I will keep going and get the Wisconsin but I am seriously thinking about quitting as I think they are going to far in many ways in trying to drain money out of our pockets.

[Daniel_Allan_Clark]

31 minutes ago, BiteMeBigTime said:

I have been grinding my way through this dockyard, same as I have a few times before. I started with the small 2 stage starter pack which is the minimum required to be able to reach the end. I am at 27 at the moment and getting really pissed off. Since level 6 not only is the required tasks hard in the first place but it very much seems like the game is rigged to make it harder. For instance in level 7 I think it was I needed to get 24 captured or assisted capture ribbons for a dd, I got to 20 ok, almost always getting at least 1 capture at a few times 2. But after 20 it just got much harder and took me 12 games to get the last 4. Now in this last level I am using my fully loaded Montana to try get the needed credits, BB hp and base xp and have found that I can't get anywhere near what I normally get with my favourite ship. Almost always in the badly beaten team and noticing things that just seem to be deliberately done to make it as hard as possible to get a decent score. Where with this ship that I play often I normally get around 100k hp and often well over that, I am finding it hard to get over 50k hp. I will keep going and get the Wisconsin but I am seriously thinking about quitting as I think they are going to far in many ways in trying to drain money out of our pockets.

Starting to see the casino, are we?

Welcome to gaming companies these days...

[BiteMeBigTime]

On 5/28/2024 at 1:10 AM, Justin_Simpleton said:

Are you saying WG wants a specific achievement?

Yep, you need to get a kraken to get that one. I have got 2 in like 2,500 games, yep I guess it's doable.

[HogHammer]

1 hour ago, BiteMeBigTime said:

Yep, you need to get a kraken to get that one. I have got 2 in like 2,500 games, yep I guess it's doable.

If I recall, many have gone into low tiers to get the kraken.  

I'm sure someone here will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think doing randoms in something like a T4 ship will accomplish that task.

[HamptonRoads]

10 minutes ago, HogHammer said:

If I recall, many have gone into low tiers to get the kraken.  

I'm sure someone here will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think doing randoms in something like a T4 ship will accomplish that task.

t5+

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, HogHammer said:

If I recall, many have gone into low tiers to get the kraken.  

I'm sure someone here will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think doing randoms in something like a T4 ship will accomplish that task.

At least T5 required, but still possibly easier.

You'd want to try during off hours (late night past midnight central or early morning before noon central). Probably run into bot heavy games when hitting T5-T4 matches.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

I ended up doing the credits, ribbons, kills plus BB, Cruiser and DD damage, all in co-op. I already had WV44 so I didn't need the BXP task, but I got up to 44,000 before clicking the claim button and I could easily have got that one today if I'd needed it. 

I decided it was easier and more certain to go get the damage against bots than to chase a Kraken that might elude me. I would probably have done at least that much damage in Randoms just trying for it, so I just cut to the chase.

1 hour ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Starting to see the casino, are we?

The only money I spent on this was spent to get the WV44 long before this dockyard was ever announced. No casino here.

[cheapinkc]

3 hours ago, BiteMeBigTime said:

Yep, you need to get a kraken to get that one. I have got 2 in like 2,500 games, yep I guess it's doable.

I won’t lie.  I took out the GC and went seal clubbing in tier 5 for that one.  In the games that end up being more tha 70% bots it’s an easy achievement to get after a few games.

[BiteMeBigTime]

On 6/3/2024 at 1:23 PM, cheapinkc said:

I won’t lie.  I took out the GC and went seal clubbing in tier 5 for that one.  In the games that end up being more tha 70% bots it’s an easy achievement to get after a few games.

Ok, unless there is something I don't know I can't see how you could have done that. As that particular task has always been for random and ranked battles only.

 

[Daniel_Allan_Clark]

17 minutes ago, BiteMeBigTime said:

Ok, unless there is something I don't know I can't see how you could have done that. As that particular task has always been for random and ranked battles only.

 

Tier 5 is so low population that it is often filled with bots in randoms...

The game is slowly bleeding playing accounts.

[BiteMeBigTime]

I did get my Wisconsin, from just the minimum starter pack and to be honest it wasn't that hard. More frustrating than hard. What I do not like about things is as I said earlier they make it harder in the game itself to get through it.

I do tasks in both random and co op. For instance I use my Minotaur in co op for getting lots of ribbons. You have to look at what is best to get each task done and also where you can work on multiple tasks at the same time.

In getting the 24 captured or assisted captures for the DD I went into co op in tier 10 because you can get more hp, credits and xp in tier 10. But what I found there is the first 20 captures were fairly normal and easy to achieve but the last 4 took 12 games. The game played different and was much harder to get a capture or even an assisted capture.

I had to play out the last one struggling to get 50k hp in tier 10 with my Montana where as I normally do much better than that. My hits were mostly ricochets and non penetrations when my shells did hit, hardly ever got any good hp hits and anything hitting my ship took off loads.

My point is they are not only making the tasks hard in the first place to encourage people to pay they really appear to be making the game harder to progress through the tasks as well.

[Utt_Bugglier]

18 minutes ago, BiteMeBigTime said:

Ok, unless there is something I don't know I can't see how you could have done that. As that particular task has always been for random and ranked battles only.

 

It’s easy and factual. Randoms at T5 often have high bot content. I did the same thing: First battle, 50% bots both sides, I grabbed six kills while hefting the green team over my shoulders for the win, and for the fastest dockyard task completion ever.

[Daniel_Allan_Clark]

1 minute ago, BiteMeBigTime said:

. But what I found there is the first 20 captures were fairly normal and easy to achieve but the last 4 took 12 games. The game played different and was much harder to get a capture or even an assisted capture.

I had to play out the last one struggling to get 50k hp in tier 10 with my Montana where as I normally do much better than that. My hits were mostly ricochets and non penetrations when my shells did hit, hardly ever got any good hp hits and anything hitting my ship took off loads.

My point is they are not only making the tasks hard in the first place to encourage people to pay they really appear to be making the game harder to progress through the tasks as well.

I have observed this as well.

It really points out to me that RNG is not stable, and is manipulated in various ways to enhance monetization.

[BiteMeBigTime]

2 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Tier 5 is so low population that it is often filled with bots in randoms...

The game is slowly bleeding playing accounts.

Really, wow, I haven't played in tier 5 for quite a while, I didn't know that was happening, will have to remember that one for next time. My apologies to cheapinkc even though I did say unless there is something I didn't know.

[Daniel_Allan_Clark]

1 minute ago, BiteMeBigTime said:

Really, wow, I haven't played in tier 5 for quite a while, I didn't know that was happening, will have to remember that one for next time. My apologies to cheapinkc even though I did say unless there is something I didn't know.

Yeah, it's a relatively new thing. Basically I started noticing it last month.

I think the summer low is starting to hit in terms of game population.

[BiteMeBigTime]

7 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

I have observed this as well.

It really points out to me that RNG is not stable, and is manipulated in various ways to enhance monetization.

Yep, about a year ago I gave up the game for a while after going to a friends place and playing the game there. He was the one that got me into it.

I had told him I was getting good hp using my Montana and he said he struggled to get to 100k on his. So I set his Montana up the same as mine and played it, I couldn't do much better. Then he had a go on mine and was getting good scores. At that time I was paying a fair bit into the game, like over $100 au a month where he only paid for a premium account. I used it to exchange xp for free xp and such to get things quicker, like a lot would. The thing is that is the only reason I could see why my ship played so much better than his.

Edited June 6 by BiteMeBigTime